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Post by pcbfla on Nov 2, 2011 8:52:55 GMT -5
From reading the press reports it is unclear who really runs this subdivision. I do understand that there are around 600 homes there and there is a 'corporation' with 200-250 people who pay dues to belong to that group, but do they have a Home Owners Assn that runs the place? It seems disorganized with some in the 'corp' and most not.  |
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Post by beachlady on Nov 3, 2011 12:58:21 GMT -5
membership in the organization is voluntary. It is not a homeowners association. a lot of members have dropped out in the past few years. some paid their dues up to date in order to get the gate codes as that was required, then the codes were made available to everyone. the association has a board and they pretty much do what they want. shame on the rest of us.
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Post by dpa on Nov 4, 2011 14:22:40 GMT -5
just get over it, my wife and i love it
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Post by 661 on Nov 4, 2011 17:22:19 GMT -5
just get over it, my wife and i love it = ============================  What do you 'love' about Bid A Wee? From driving through the place a few times it looks like a bunch of old clapped out homes from the 50-60's, a lot of them pretty run down. |
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Post by 797K6IH on Nov 7, 2011 14:56:51 GMT -5
The beach silly, and you cant come in  , our house was built in the early 90s and looks nice, private beaches rule........................... |
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Post by beachladytoo on Nov 8, 2011 23:02:09 GMT -5
beachlady is right about the organization and membership. the neighborhood has no homeowners association and they don't want one. no person or corp has been authorized to represent all the property owners. seems to me this group has a huge conflict of interest in representing its members that are less than a majority of prop owners and also nonmembers that are a majority. based on the 200 yes votes they say they got for gates 400 of 600 property owners were against the gates. wonder what it is they want to do down on that beach that they need so much privacy or are they pretending to be rich Destin-ites........jus sayin |
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Post by pcbfla on Nov 8, 2011 23:24:59 GMT -5
I understand that the 'code' for the gates was to be given only to the members of the 'corp' that paid their yearly dues. Did that change? The Tax Assessor said that all the Bid A Wee property owners had their tax bumped up a bit to pay for the beach, so if everyone in the 600 home BAW area is paying their taxes on the beach I don't see how any group of 225 or so people can actually have any leg to stand on to deny access to the other 375 or so home owners. So if you live there and wanted access via the gates it seems that they would have to give you access (ie: the gate code) even if you did not belong to the corporation. The whole business just seems very strange and pretty unfriendly to the rest of the people in the area that are not right in BAW.
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Post by beachlady on Nov 9, 2011 13:56:35 GMT -5
they did have to give the code to all the homeowners, but only AFTER, some had paid their back dues as demanded by the BAWBP organization. This organization was started by one individual, and at first excluded everyone but the first two blocks. BAWBP has only ever had ONE president, which is the one who originally started the organization. I don't know anywhere else in the world where you could buy a median priced home, pay 50.00 a year and expect to have a beautiful "private" beach. It was public when I purchased my home, and I do not like the gates nor perception it gives the public of all the bid a wee residents. a full vote of all homeowners and I believe the gates would be removed.
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Post by Beach Bum on Nov 10, 2011 16:25:52 GMT -5
I try to leave the gates open every chance I get but in case it gets closed or in the event someone has an emergency while walking east or west and urgently needs to get off the beach The code is CX549
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Post by Erica on Nov 10, 2011 18:07:31 GMT -5
 I don't have any need to use these gates but I think that giving out the code of CX549 is a good thing to do. I am tempted to go and try it just to see if it works! Thanks for the info.
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Post by beachlady on Nov 11, 2011 13:50:10 GMT -5
I hope the codes do work as long as the gates are up, especially the gate for the emergency vehicles to access the beach! I would hate for the EMTs to have to lift someone over the gates and fences to get them off the beach. If the gates are allowed to stay, maybe they should not be locked on the beach side. and MAYBE, the one for the emergency vehicles should not be locked at all. I noticed the gate for the emergency vehicles had to be moved, so now they will have to stop on a slope in the sand and get out and work the code, this just doesn't seem right or smart.
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Post by Beach Bum on Nov 11, 2011 13:59:01 GMT -5
Erica if it does not work post here and I will make sure that is the current code and re post if need be
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Post by Dave on Nov 13, 2011 16:17:33 GMT -5
The beach silly, and you cant come in , our house was built in the early 90s and looks nice, private beaches rule........................... People like you make me sick, you are an example of everything wrong in this country. No one should own a beach, period! With that said please enjoy your private beach while the rest of us look for a place to park and walk a mile to access the beach they we help maintain by paying taxes. And whatever you do, please don't drowned as that would break my freaking heart! |
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Post by Beach Bum on Nov 13, 2011 18:28:27 GMT -5
Those of us who were here before Smith arrived were very happy. We knew that when we bought in here we had a dedicated beach but not a private beach. We were fine kowing the dedication had survived several court battles and would remain in place.
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Post by JD on Nov 13, 2011 19:09:19 GMT -5
There must be something going on with the people in the corporation that isn't obvious to others in the community. I am aware that one of the 'talking points' is the amount of trash left on the beach, but I just don't see that the amount of trash left on that stretch of beach is any more than is left on beaches east or west of there. It isn't like people go just there to discard cans or bottles rather than doing this on other sections of beach. All beaches get garbage left on them. It would be nice if it did not happen but it does, always has and probably always will be that way. So I don't buy this locking gates to keep trash off the beach. Come on, someone in this click of people, what is thr REAL reason for all this tempest in a teapot? Why all this bad feeling? For years and years things went along OK and in the last 6-7 months we are getting gates put up then fencing by the gates. There must be some reason for all this nonsense - so someone with the BAW Corporation - what's the real deal here? ? |
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Post by pcbfla on Nov 14, 2011 13:59:04 GMT -5
the entire county hate us
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Maybe not the entire County, but those who live around you in PCB think very poorly of BAW. They do NOT make any distinction between those 200-250 corporation members and the rest of the people in BAW.
I think the statistics on homes in that area are 599, 'maybe' the corporation has 225 members, some of them seem to be against the gates so maybe 100 are against and maybe 125 are in favor, so you have 125 homes of the 599 who are responsible for giving everyone associated with Bid A Wee a black eye.
The tail seems to be wagging the dog in BAW.
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Post by dpa on Nov 15, 2011 15:30:26 GMT -5
OK i am guest dpa. i"m sorry for my post, i am not whats wrong with this country. my wife and i moved here a year and a half ago because we love this area (the beach) we have been coming down here sense the 70's we found a house in bid a wee and had no ideal what was going to happen, i feel very luck to have this beach, and don't know what to say to all you who hate us for this, but it is very nice to have this private beach, we do plain to sell this house when the market turns around and i bet the private beach will help no matter what all you say.
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Post by tim on Nov 15, 2011 20:08:13 GMT -5
we do plain to sell this house when the market turns around and i bet the private beach will help no matter what all you say. =============================
The market isn't going to turn around for the next 10-12 years and the Bid-A-Wee legal problems will have to be disclosed by any realtor handling a sale. That will make potential buyers either demand a lower price or look elsewhere.
The easiest way to get around the problem is to eliminate it, get rid of the Smith guy who is making all the problems. That development got along just fine in the 35 years or so before he got there and decided that BAW needed a King.
In the meantime the entire subdivision has a rep as thinking that they are better then everyone else. You don't like it - then change it. |
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Post by daisy on Nov 16, 2011 17:14:10 GMT -5
You are so mistaken. The BOD does not always agree with Jim Smith and Jim Smith didn't pick any of the current members. They were "all" voted for. They were also nominated by individuals residing in the neighborhood. If you hate it here so much, why don't you move? The ones who don't like the current status of the neighborhood consist of less than 20 individuals. That's a far cry from the 300 plus that like the private beach. Also, what are you going to sue for? You going to sue because you don't like someone?? That's just plain stupid.
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Post by guest66 on Nov 18, 2011 11:11:09 GMT -5
give it a rest beach bummer
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Post by margaret on Nov 18, 2011 12:05:01 GMT -5
It seems odd to me that all this rhetoric on this board is spurred by one person who has an axe to grind--beach bum. Could it be that beach bum is actually randy martin who is going to court to defend himself and using this boardbehind a pseudonym to solidify his defense mechanism? Hmmm....let's see...oh ye who hollers the loudest is usually the guilty party. No board/membership ever agrees 100% on anything. That is why a democratic process of a board and membership usually works because the membership makes the vote count not one or two individuals. If you, beach bummer, were so concerned with the issues and probs prior to the assault charges that have arisen between Mr. Martin and Smith then why haven't you already sued someone for those democratically voted issues that you argue about on this board? Again, oh ye who hollers the loudest....and why are you hollering? Interesting that if you claim to have been attacked and you have a witness, with your anger it is interesting that you did not file an assault chargeourself ysince you seem to be so litiguous minded.
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Post by Z on Nov 18, 2011 14:16:40 GMT -5
;D
The Board was set up for everyone to use and you can either sign up for a screen name or just appear as a 'guest'. I expect it to be controversial as the issue has been a hot topic for both those who like the gates and those who do not.
Post what you want and expect others to disagree. No posts have been banned or deleted and probably won't be. The nice thing about message boards is you don't have to provide any 'real' identity information, I don't care who you are and if you guess who some other poster that isn't my concern.
One minor suggestion - folks, try using paragraphs. It makes it easier to read the posts if you break them up a bit rather than just going on for 200 words all run together.
Also you can start your own topics, you don't just have to post on those few threads already open. Enjoy the board and let people know what you think about the Gates at Bid-A-Wee.
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Post by beachladytoo on Nov 19, 2011 13:27:21 GMT -5
some facts to clear up some misunderstandings or questions posted here:
frank merritt is not vp any longer. Jim Beahon is the new vp. he and smith had a disagreement.
mike wallace is no longer on the bod or treasurer. he turned over financial records to an accounting firm. smith said in a letter he sent that they were searching for a cheaper accounting firm to take the books so it appears smith is the treasurer too now.
people might hold officer positions but smith does it all. make no mistake about it.
most of the current bod members were hand picked by smith. one bod member commented in a public bod meeting that the entire bod was selected by smith and smith agreed.
ballots are sent to members with the same number of people nominated to fill the few vacancies so why vote? nominations are taken from the floor but cannot win because of the number of ballots mailed in and collected by only smith or emailed to smith.
secretary never takes minutes and never does any act a corporate secretary should do. smith writes all minutes and was even signing her name to them until lately.
smith collects all ballots himself. smith has them in his possession and strangely ballots always come out with the vote smith wants. he alone gets emailed ballots. no one follows up with members to verify that they even voted or how they voted on issues.
the bod is supposed to meet following the annual meeting to vote on its officers. ive talked to many bod members for years and that hasn't happened in anyones memory. the officers are who smith decides are the officers.
for years smith has acted without bod approval. only after he acts or gets caught does he go to the bod for approval with an excuse he wasnt given the time to contact the bod. the bods attitude is just let smith do what he wants to do. smith knows this even says he can do what he wants the bod doesn't care as long as they dont have to do it.
i would swear in court these facts are true. any person on the bod that honestly pays attention and keeps tabs will realize these are the facts. it will take time that's all.
just wait and see how many members they have after june 2012. many members aren't paying next year and won't pay again until there is complete new leadership that want to work for the good of the beach and be involved more often than one annual meeting.
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Post by Dirty Rotten Scoundrel on Nov 19, 2011 13:43:08 GMT -5
It's okay Beachbum, you are going to a better place soon.
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Post by Dirty Rotten Scoundrel on Nov 19, 2011 15:18:42 GMT -5
 Some of you need towrite more bullcrap so we can see some more idiotic statements. Beachlady is so good that who she is shines through, and will swear in court that bullcrap she has dreamed up is true. Ya'll need to go to the Life Store and get one. 
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Post by guest on Nov 20, 2011 12:32:59 GMT -5
BeachLadytoo, I was a little confused reading your blog, why all the lies, false information, so I re-read your entries and realized your advances to Jim Smith have been ignored, you cannot understand why he continues to not notice you, it is a pity, all this time and he doesn't even notice you.
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Post by guest on Nov 20, 2011 13:37:16 GMT -5
Beachladytoo, you have a real crush on Jim. What a pity he doesn't even notice you. It is a real shame, all you can do is post lies on a board with only a few members, all talking trash, just because you are rejected by Jim and most of society.
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Post by Unbiased viewer on Nov 20, 2011 20:06:08 GMT -5
Appears Mr. Z who runs this site has decided to edit and remove some statements by randyp1955, beachbum. That is very biased and prejudiced. Does that prove that this site is not legit? No fun for anyone. You are not fair. Admin: Several comments were removed at the OPs request. No one is forcing you to post here Mrs. Smith and whether you post as 'Unbiased viewer' or 'Dirty Rotten Scoundrel' your IP address gives you away. |
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Post by unbiased viewer on Nov 21, 2011 9:55:48 GMT -5
It was fun messing with Randy Martin  while it lasted. Sorry you see fit to be biased by removing his slanderous comments. He'll be back some other way, like a cancer that won't go away. Just being able to call him a dumb shit was worth it. Now you go ahead and give him all the forum you can. I accused you, Mr. Harris, a while back of being in cahoots with Martin. You just proved my point. |
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Post by beachlady on Nov 21, 2011 10:11:09 GMT -5
I think you can use as many names as you like, it is real easy to tell who is doing most of posts about "martin". and really, do you think he is the ONLY person who does not agree with you. if it is bad , it must be him, that is your mentality. You are spewing so much venom in that direction, you could be blindsided from another direction.
According to you some lady is posting because Jim ignored her advances - what planet did you come from. I realize you are trying to turn peoples thought in another direction to take pressure off your situation in BAW.
I am glad you are not my friend or even an acquaintance. As far as the forum, your responses in the new herald were left on AFTER the messages you were responding to were removed! AND you had to sign your name to that one. You have no scruples. that much is clear
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, our house was built in the early 90s
Some of you need towrite more bullcrap so we can see some more idiotic statements. Beachlady is so good that who she is shines through, and will swear in court that bullcrap she has dreamed up is true. Ya'll need to go to the Life Store and get one. 
